September 05, 2004

Zwick Roasted Already

It's amazing. The Monday morning quarterbacking started in the Sunday paper for Buckeye quarterback Justin Zwick. Zwick had just led the Buckeyes to a 27-6 win over Cincinnati in his first-ever start at Ohio State. He was 14 of 26 passing for 213 yds and a touchdown. He threw two interceptions and fumbled three times, losing one. And already the doubters are out. Posters to the bucknuts.com boards are criticizing his mechanics, moaning about his fumbles, and crying that a couple of his spirals weren't quite tight enough to suit them.

As another example, Bud Shaw doesn't even try to conceal his favoritism toward Zwick's longtime rival for the starting quarterback job, Glenville High School's Troy Smith, in his PD column today. Whatever the reason for this bias, (rooting for the hometown Cleveland kid over the Massillon wonder boy, or whatever?) he's certainly entitled to it, as I am to mine, but this piece comes off as nasty. If the sophomore did anything right at all, one would never deduce it from reading Shaw's take. He documents Zwick's every misstep, failing to include details like Zwick's one stumble being caused by getting stepped on by an offensive lineman, or the fumble he lost being caused by a sack caused by a missed block. And here's Shaw minimizing one of Zwick's many first game successes:

Zwick's lone touchdown was a 17-yard can't-miss lob to tight end Ryan Hamby against a Cincinnati blitz that abdicated the middle of the field. Tea-leaf readers should hear Tressel complimenting Zwick for finding Hamby - his mouthpiece would have had to fly out and blind him not to find Hamby - and know Tressel is leaning Tower of Pisalike toward keeping Zwick No. 1.

No, I'd say he's leaning Saddam's-Statue-in-Baghdad-like toward keeping Zwick No. 1. But the evident folly of Tressel's decision is clear to Shaw, if nobody else. All he had was one "can't-miss" touchdown pass (that presumably Shaw could have "lobbed" himself) which I guess happened while the Cincinnati defense was taking a water break. I guess for Shaw, it's not about winning for the Buckeyes. He thinks that Smith should be the starter, whatever his reason for that view. As the theme of his petty, putdown piece, Shaw plays up Zwick's explanation that an ill-fitting mouthpiece caused some trouble calling signals at the line, as excuse-making by the quarterback. That's what I mean by nasty.

Zwick is a kid who has known, or at least dreamed for probably ten years or more that he would one day take the field as a Buckeye in Ohio Stadium. He won the state championship as a freshman QB at Orrville, before moving on to high school football's Mecca, Massillon, Ohio. The buildup has been over-the-top. The expectations are at best unreasonable. The pressure on the kid has been immense.

Do you think he might have been nervous?

I do think that Shaw and I watched two different games. Yes, Zwick was rushed, harassed, and rattled by Dantonio's defensive scheme at times, and he made several mistakes of inexperience. But he demonstrated control of the offense and good field vision. He demonstrated an ability to pass the ball down the field that we have not seen in a Buckeye quarterback in some time, and I might add, an ability that I have not yet seen demonstrated by Troy Smith in my admittedly limited exposure to him.

Zwick made throws yesterday that Craig Krenzel never made, and couldn't have made in two years as the Buckeye starter. He threw for over 200 yards in his debut, and had a 47 yard touchdown called back on a penalty away from the ball. The "out" patterns to Roy Hall and Ted Ginn were impressive for any college QB. The bomb to Bam Childress was a pass that any of the last three Buckeye quarterbacks would have underthrown with regularity. He showed the ability to roll out and had patience in the pocket.

The Buckeyes won handily, instead of squeaking another one out, largely because they were able to pass the ball successfully and gain yardage in large chunks. Smith, who played quite a bit less than Zwick, had really only one pass completion of consequence, a beautiful 23 yard fade for a touchdown to Santonio Holmes. Smith has great ability, as a passer as well as a runner, and may yet prove to be the better quarterback. But the coaches have worked with both guys for two full years, and have decided that Justin Zwick is their man. Until yesterday, I had seen the two young men compete only in two Spring Games, but I am inclined to agree with the coaches, and I was pretty impressed with what I saw of Justin Zwick yesterday.

Shaw apparently feels that Tressel must have chosen Zwick to start only because he "doesn't believe in a quarterback carousel", not because Tressel believes Zwick is just better for the job right now, and doesn't want to say anything negative about his backup QB. Shaw reminds us that Zwick was almost picked off two more times....

And so long as Zwick proves prone to mistakes - he could have been intercepted twice more - the reason for choosing him over Smith fades.

Yes, and he could have thrown two more touchdown passes, if we want to get into things that didn't happen. Shaw apparently wanted Zwick to have exactly one game before "the reason for choosing him over Smith" is determined to be somehow "fading". Shaw's position is reflected in the words he chooses; Smith is being "a good soldier", and Zwick is "slurring" his words. Smith is "no ordinary backup", while Zwick is out "collecting turnovers". I guess Shaw's agenda could be more transparent. I just don't know how.

Tressel has gone to great pains to avoid a QB controversy and the attitudes of both kids for the entire two year evaluation period have been exemplary. That's a credit to them and to Tressel. Maybe Bud Shaw wants to keep that pot stirred up. Maybe he expects perfection from a first-game sophomore. Maybe he's just not a Justin Zwick fan. That's cool. After yesterday, I am.

Good luck to Troy Smith and to Justin Zwick. And Go Bucks!

Posted by dan at September 5, 2004 06:56 PM
Comments

Well, I'd rather see Zwick get his "jitters" out against Cinci than against the likes of Wisconsin, Iowa, or Michigan . . .

I can't wait until OSU actually gets into some conference play so I can actually SEE a game out here rather than watching the live gamecast on ESPN.com!!!

Posted by: jj at September 5, 2004 11:32 PM

One thing for sure is that the Big Ten is loaded this year. The top 7 teams are all tough. Purdue, Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota and even Penn State all look very good. It may still come down to OSU-Michigan for the title, but I don't think anyone will finish the Big Ten schedule unbeaten. I'm dreading the Bucks' road trips to Purdue and Iowa (in addition to the one to NC State.)

Posted by: Dan at September 7, 2004 10:15 AM

I wonder what the author of this thinks about Zwick now? What do you guys think about him? Is giving Smith some time in action still unwarranted?

Posted by: Tabe at October 16, 2004 12:48 PM

Todd,

Like a lot of Buckye fans, I wanted Zwick to be "great", and now, after a few games, it looks like he may instead be just ordinary. It's too early to make that assessment completely, but the rationale for continuing to play him over Troy Smith (presumably continuity, Zwick's morale?, whatever) is long gone. I was shocked that Smith did not play in the latter stages of the Wisconsin or Northwestern games, when there was seemingly everything to gain, and nothing to lose.

I have written very little on the blog about football in the last couple of weeks, mainly due to the funk I've been in over the play of the Buckeyes and Browns. I don't blame Zwick for the Buckeyes' problems. I blame Tressel and the coaching staff, mostly in the persons of the offensive and defensive coordinators, who continue to be outcoached week after week. Ultimately it's Tressel's fault for valuing "the program" or his own personal loyalty to people like Bollman and Snyder, over the concerns about fielding an excellent team with an excellent gameplan each Saturday.

I have been brought down to earth a bit from my early assumption that we had the talent to win the Big Ten, even though we didn't have the experience to do it. I'm not so sure, especially at the offensive line and running back positions, where we have very mediocre talent, at best. And the defensive coaching scheme has served to minimize any talent advantage we may have on that side of the ball.

No doubt more than you cared to hear.

Thanks for writing.

Posted by: Dan at October 16, 2004 03:06 PM

Ex-Zwick fan. I bought into the coach knows best philosophy. I bought into what i saw in the spring game that Zwick had the slight edge, but as a buckeye fan, and witnessing the entire 2004 season. Smith should be the starter in 2005. If you're neutral about this topic, looking at what each player gives to the team. Looking at the spark that occurred right after Smith took over, there is no doubt in my mind Smith is the better of the two. If you don't get all mushy about it, with the hopes and dreams of Orville and lived to one day play in the NFL....stuff, you would also come to that conclusion.

Posted by: Fred at April 17, 2005 12:17 PM

With the benefit of having watched a full season involving both QB's, it's pretty clear that Smith adds a dimension that Zwick doesn't have, and that teams must prepare for. This post was originally written after one game, when all kinds of media people were out to promote their pro-Smith agendas, which I thought was unfair to Zwick. My opinion about that hasn't changed at all. It was unfair to Zwick.

That said, I guess we can now hope that Smith has all his stupid, selfish, program-harming stunts out of his system, and can get back to winning football games and getting on with his life.

The Buckeyes will be frighteningly fast in 2005 with Smith, Ginn, Gonzalez, Haw, Pittman, Holmes, and Albert Dukes and perhaps Marcel Frost (TE) at the skill positions. It's exciting.

Zwick had a very good bowl game, playing hurt, and showing that he is still a QB that would be starting for dozens of Division 1 programs. We will need him to win the Miami game for us, and if he does, don't be surprised if he starts the Texas game, although Smith will surely play a lot too.

I certainly agree, using hindsight, that the offense is better with Smith at QB. Just remember that Smith had exactly ONE great game (Michigan) and the other games we won with him at QB were won not necessarily because of his play, and he had a terrible game when we lost at Purdue.

The offensive line came together at the end of the season too, when Downing and Barton solidified the line, and that's also when Tressel was concentrating more on getting the ball into Ginn's hands more. So Zwick wasn't exactly dealt the same hand that Smith was playing with in the last five games.

So I don't really disagree with you much at all, although I don't think I was all "mushy" about anything. All I said was that expectations by everyone for Zwick were off the charts, and it would have been understandable if the kid was feeling a touch of pressure.

And I didn't really come to any "conclusions" when I wrote this on September 5, 2004, after ONE game. I was critical of the tone of Bud Shaw's piece because it was so obviously biased toward Smith.

And if I might get a bit "mushy" now, I will say that whatever happens to Justin Zwick, if we discard him after his usefulness is used up when he beats Miami, I admire him. He is a Buckeye through and through. He could easily have transferred when it became apparent that the coaches had decided Smith was their guy. Lots of other programs would have rolled out the red carpet for him. He has never complained or whined. He has conducted himself like a gentleman. He has not taken cash from a booster. He bleeds scarlet and gray, and I will always appreciate him for that.

Posted by: dan at April 17, 2005 08:31 PM
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